We’ve got our first DAD on the show! Andy Kingman and I talk about the effects of becoming parents on marriage, friendships, and gender roles. Andy helps run TikTok US’s State Public Policy organization. Prior to TikTok, he was General Counsel to the State Privacy & Security Coalition, and was an attorney in DLA Piper’s Global Data Privacy and Cybersecurity practice group. He is the husband of Amy, dad to Grace, and best buddy to golden retriever Scout.

I’ve known Andy since college so having this open conversation felt so good and so safe. He and his wife Amy (one of my best friends) were together for ~10 years before having their daughter. Andy shares on how the relationship capital they had built over that time gave them a bit of a cushion to support their postpartum experience.  

We come from a similar perspective of wanting to change internalized, perceived, and assumed gender roles for our children. And we do this by being curious ourselves and building up relationship capital with our children too. 

At the end of this episode Andy blows my mind. We talk about a few of the ways that as a man he doesn’t understand the experience we new moms have. Especially the social pressures. And…he actually doesn’t understand. He doesn’t know. Which is why we are talking about it. Because the people need to know. 

Resources: 

• Amy Kingman (Andy’s wife) writes about finding peace after pregnancy loss at pstprtm
• Follow Me on instagram @alissaalter
• Download your FREE guide to the 20 Things No One Tells You About Pregnancy and Postpartum, visit www.alissa-alter.com
• Join our private Facebook community Mom’s Club for the community of like minded, intentional moms hanging out in a 100% judgement free zone you’ve always dreamed of.

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